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    Quote Originally Posted by schlaugh View Post
    Well those didn't work but Jens gave me an idea and another place to look. There are settings in Win10 that make it behave as if the PC were a tablet (this ain't). I turned those off and so far so good.

    Thanks for your help!
    You know, that makes sense ... after a fashion. I remember that Windows 8 looked just like a tablet (or a phone). They probably had to revert a lot of changes to give back the desktop for Windows 10.

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    I know they like to save stuuf to onedrive.
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    I know they if you are not careful your stuff will be saved to onedrive. I had a file saved there and someone locked with a pasword and I can't get access to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schlaugh View Post
    A problem has cropped up and it wasn't my doing (for once). If I don't strike a key, or move the mouse for a few minutes - like three - my PC goes into sleep mode and the screen goes blank. To wake it up I have to move the mouse and then log in again to the Win10 desktop. I have tweaked all of the power settings and screen settings that I can find and nothing works. It's incredibly annoying.
    Is it a ASUS motherboard with the ASUS utilities loaded? I recently discovered a conflict with the latest Windows updates and that utility, it causes Windows to go to a power saving mode with the sleep timer set. That happens even if you have the ASUS utilities to maximum performance mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearded One View Post
    Is it a ASUS motherboard with the ASUS utilities loaded? I recently discovered a conflict with the latest Windows updates and that utility, it causes Windows to go to a power saving mode with the sleep timer set. That happens even if you have the ASUS utilities to maximum performance mode.
    Don't think I have the ASUS components. It's a Lenovo laptop, vintage late 2016. Thank you for the suggestion.

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    First thing to do with Windows 10 is to go through the entire settings menu turning all permissions off. Then edit the registry to kill Cortana, then use the command line to strip out all the Microsoft bloatware. At which point you'll have an operating system rather than an elaborate piece of spyware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grant hutchison View Post
    First thing to do with Windows 10 is to go through the entire settings menu turning all permissions off. Then edit the registry to kill Cortana, then use the command line to strip out all the Microsoft bloatware. At which point you'll have an operating system rather than an elaborate piece of spyware.
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    Other than Cortana, what would be a "bloatware"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bknight View Post
    Other than Cortana, what would be a "bloatware"?
    Depends on whether you like to make your own third party arrangements, or not; want to use software bundled with your additional hardware, or not. But Windows 10 comes preinstalled with a load of games, mapping, news and weather apps, a viewer for 3D print objects, "mixed reality" interfaces, camera software, GPS software and "find my phone", social media and streaming video apps. I also have no use for OneNote, OneDrive, Skype, the calculator, the calendar or Outlook. There were others, but I had to look them up to even figure out what they did, so they're gone too.
    Basically, Microsoft are trying to lock you into their own apps for everything you do, and they set those apps to share ridiculous amounts of personal information by default. There are potential stability advantages to using Microsoft apps, I'm sure, but I'd rather not have an account with Microsoft, or share my data with that organization. To be honest, I'd rather never deal with Microsoft or Apple in my life, but I'm kind of trapped by both because of my wife's requirements for her work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grant hutchison View Post
    Depends on whether you like to make your own third party arrangements, or not; want to use software bundled with your additional hardware, or not. But Windows 10 comes preinstalled with a load of games, mapping, news and weather apps, a viewer for 3D print objects, "mixed reality" interfaces, camera software, GPS software and "find my phone", social media and streaming video apps. I also have no use for OneNote, OneDrive, Skype, the calculator, the calendar or Outlook. There were others, but I had to look them up to even figure out what they did, so they're gone too.
    Basically, Microsoft are trying to lock you into their own apps for everything you do, and they set those apps to share ridiculous amounts of personal information by default. There are potential stability advantages to using Microsoft apps, I'm sure, but I'd rather not have an account with Microsoft, or share my data with that organization. To be honest, I'd rather never deal with Microsoft or Apple in my life, but I'm kind of trapped by both because of my wife's requirements for her work.

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    I can agree with you, however I don't want to really start deleting keys in the registry without knowing the consequences of the deletion. You have noted a couple of specifics and those I can delete with glee to reduce the TROs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearded One View Post
    Is it a ASUS motherboard with the ASUS utilities loaded? I recently discovered a conflict with the latest Windows updates and that utility, it causes Windows to go to a power saving mode with the sleep timer set. That happens even if you have the ASUS utilities to maximum performance mode.
    I have an ASUS laptop that will decide to put itself to sleep mode, seemingly randomly, sometimes while I'm actively using it. Do you have any more details on what I should look at, assuming it's the same problem you're describing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bknight View Post
    I can agree with you, however I don't want to really start deleting keys in the registry without knowing the consequences of the deletion.
    Actually, not so extreme as deleting keys. Switching a couple from "1" to "0", and/or adding a couple set to zero.

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    Well in the mean time, not privy to your thoughts, I have been deleting one note keys/values from registry, one hour and only in one "directory", still not finished.
    I did uninstall OneDrive but haven't touched registry for that one. Both were no big deal for me as I have never used either since I have had the lap (+4 yrs.).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanF View Post
    I have an ASUS laptop that will decide to put itself to sleep mode, seemingly randomly, sometimes while I'm actively using it. Do you have any more details on what I should look at, assuming it's the same problem you're describing?
    If it does it while you are using it then it might be a different problem. The one I refer to changes your power settings to sleep after an hour of inactivity. You can see the change in windows settings.

    It appears that the ASUS utility will change the Windows settings to the power saving mode even if you don't have that selected in the utility. I just exit the app when it loads now. I just discovered this myself a few days ago.

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    My Windows 10 computer decided it needed to reboot and install an update. It has been sitting at 22% complete for the last 40 minutes, with the disk light only occasionally blinking.

    Of course it says not to turn it off.
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    One of my Win10 computers took forever to update ("Do not turn off"), then (eventually) said it couldn't perform the update and so was reverting the changes (took an hour or two to do this). I was annoyed. I found that I could set it to stop all updates -- for 30 days -- so I did so. All was okay after that.

    Until my time limit ran out. Once again, it spent hours updating, couldn't finish, spent some hours reverting. I again stopped the updates, but I'm not very comfortable with it.

    There must have been a bad modification in some update along the way. I do have an earlier disk image of the C: drive and have done others since, but I may have to start from scratch until they get their act fixed up.

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    It seems to have progressed overnight, and let me login this morning. Things are very slow, but I’m hoping it is just finishing up in the background.
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    Yesterday, we got our first-ever Win10 blue screen of death. Mrs EV was remotely connected to her office PC using GoToMyPC or whatever similar program her employer uses.

    We were both taken aback, as the screen looked rather “Fisher Price”. In fact we thought it might be a malware attack at first.

    Fortunately, a reboot seems to have restored things to stability.
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    Yes, that sad face emoticon is not a good design choice, and I would personally cross the road to slap whoever is responsible for its inclusion.
    Particularly after the fourth time it turns up in the space of twenty minutes.

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    It occurred to me a few minutes ago that it seems a long time since Windows 10 came out and there hasn't been another version. Then I saw this thread!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
    It occurred to me a few minutes ago that it seems a long time since Windows 10 came out and there hasn't been another version.
    Windows 10 was pushed as "the last version of Windows"--the idea being that Microsoft will gradually fill up your hard drive with updates, producing an increasingly crufty operating system that is progressively more incompatible with all your legacy software.
    For me, the last version of Windows was XP. Subsequent editions have simply made my workflow harder and more annoying.

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    Agreed on the XP. Except for the file management system, for which I'd prefer to go back to 3.1 or so. MS seems to make it worse with each new version.
    I'm really not unhappy that MS stopped updating 7. Except they found it necessary to install Edge without so much as requesting permission.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grant hutchison View Post
    Windows 10 was pushed as "the last version of Windows"--the idea being that Microsoft will gradually fill up your hard drive with updates, producing an increasingly crufty operating system that is progressively more incompatible with all your legacy software.
    For me, the last version of Windows was XP. Subsequent editions have simply made my workflow harder and more annoying.

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    I use XP because of two programs that I like but no longer available for later versions. I had to get a more recent laptop and have it modified to accept XP which of course is no longer supported or updated. In fact the modification wiped out internet use which suits me fine, I transfer files with sticks and can forget about hackers. For other work I went to Apple years ago. With upgrades turned off because my programs there would stop working with the latest OS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by profloater View Post
    I use XP because of two programs that I like but no longer available for later versions. I had to get a more recent laptop and have it modified to accept XP which of course is no longer supported or updated.
    I run XP on a virtual hard drive under VirtualBox. Time was, you could download an XP vhd from Microsoft, but they shut that page down a year after they discontinued XP support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grant hutchison View Post
    I run XP on a virtual hard drive under VirtualBox. Time was, you could download an XP vhd from Microsoft, but they shut that page down a year after they discontinued XP support.

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    I still run Xp on one machine, an older machine that used to be my main. I was forced to change when I got a bad HD. I spent an inordinate amount of time trying to retrieve data from the sick one but the HD prevented. So I ordered a new machine (Win 10) and downloaded the previous backup and proceeded to rebuild data. I do backup more frequently. Anyway Dell provided another HD but with an Xp Op system. So happily I still have to older one in fine condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extravoice View Post
    Yesterday, we got our first-ever Win10 blue screen of death. Mrs EV was remotely connected to her office PC using GoToMyPC or whatever similar program her employer uses.

    We were both taken aback, as the screen looked rather “Fisher Price”. In fact we thought it might be a malware attack at first.

    Fortunately, a reboot seems to have restored things to stability.
    I get those once in a while. It seems to only happen when I'm browsing and as best I can tell it is some sort of driver problem, though I haven't been able to figure out exactly which one. Seems particularly related to watching a video in a browser. It is annoying when it happens, but seems no worse than that, and is pretty infrequent.
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    I still have an old PC running XP. It's not connected to the internet and only used to store and burn my music recordings. Other than that, the only use for XP I've had the last 10 years is the "Mini XP" on Hiren's Bootdisk. When a PC is a software trainwreck, or when you want to easily clone a harddrive from a pre-XP computer, this is (slightly illegal) gold. One click install in a few minutes, and you have a partition with XP from where you can access the rest of the PC. And it disappears again when you're done.
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    I have moved the Windows 11 posts to their own thread (LINK), since I expect we will discussing W11 for a long time. Please discuss W11 in that thread.
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