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    Sheesh guys and gals,

    Somehow, Virgin has not garnered the vast fanbase SpacedX has.

    Is this not the first private venture to send people to space?

    Congrats to Richard Branson!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7cscb View Post
    Sheesh guys and gals,

    Somehow, Virgin has not garnered the vast fanbase SpacedX has.

    Is this not the first private venture to send people to space?

    Congrats to Richard Branson!
    Hey, just because we’re calmer and quieter, doesn’t mean we don’t exist. Congrats indeed!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7cscb View Post
    Sheesh guys and gals,

    Somehow, Virgin has not garnered the vast fanbase SpacedX has.
    It's "SpaceX" (hopefully that was an unintentional typo?), and is it any surprise that a company that has had as many orbital achievements as SpaceX would get more attention than Virgin? I'm happy that Virgin has kept at it, especially after the 2014 accident, and I wish them well, but I'm not spending $250,000 for a suborbital hop, and I'm far more interested in seeing what happens with reusable orbital rockets, whether built by SpaceX, Blue Origin, or someone else.

    Is this not the first private venture to send people to space?
    It depends on your definitions: Whether by "people" you mean "at least one person" or "more than one person" and how you define "space." SpaceShipOne had a single pilot and flew to the Karman line (100 km) while this flight flew past the American "space line" at 50 miles. Both are somewhat arbitrary, convenient numbers using different distance measurement systems. In either case, it's above the majority of the atmosphere, but a spacecraft in a circular orbit would still deorbit quickly from remaining air.

    Congrats to Richard Branson!
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    Given Branson’s business, and the type of craft he is using, I still think his long-term goal is rapid, long distance transport rather than just sub-orbital tourism.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Extravoice View Post
    Given Branson’s business, and the type of craft he is using, I still think his long-term goal is rapid, long distance transport rather than just sub-orbital tourism.


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    Hmmm...that sounds reasonable.

    I would think price would have to come down quite a bit.

    Also, current 2 weeks of training would need to be reduced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extravoice View Post
    Given Branson’s business, and the type of craft he is using, I still think his long-term goal is rapid, long distance transport rather than just sub-orbital tourism.


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    Richard Branson hopes to start commercial services next year.

    https://spacenews.com/branson-looks-...iptwo-flights/

    With a first flight to the edge of space under the company’s belt, Virgin Galactic founder Richard Branson believes commercial flights of SpaceShipTwo could begin some time next year.

    An exuberant Branson took the stage at the Mojave Air and Space Port here to congratulate the company and its employees for a successful test flight Dec. 13 of the SpaceShipTwo vehicle named VSS Unity, which reached a peak altitude of 82.7 kilometers. The flight was the first by the vehicle to cross the boundary of 50 miles, or approximately 80 kilometers, that U.S. government agencies use to award astronaut wings.

    “How on Earth do I describe the feeling?” he said on stage, referring to his emotions from watching the successful test flight. “Joy? Definitely. Relief? Emphatically. Exhiliaration? Absolutely.”

    Offstage, a more subdued Branson, huddling with a group of reporters, said he shed “tears of relief” after the successful flight. “When you are in the test flight program of a space company, you can never be completely, 100 percent sure, because that’s what a test flight program is,” he said. “The spaceship was tested to its limits today and she performed just as we wished and we just couldn’t be happier.”

    This flight does not mark the end of the test flight program for SpaceShipTwo. “We will now push on with the remaining portion of our flight test program, which will see the rocket motor burn for longer, and VSS Unity fly still faster and higher,” he said onstage.
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    When they finally do, the 11-year-old Kai nested inside of 25-year-old Kai will be leaping for joy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7cscb View Post
    Sheesh guys and gals,

    Somehow, Virgin has not garnered the vast fanbase SpacedX has.

    Is this not the first private venture to send people to space?

    Congrats to Richard Branson!
    No, it isn't. First, reaching the Karman line in a vertical hop is a meaningless act: the Karman line only has meaning for vehicles approaching orbital velocity, as they would have to do so in order to maintain level flight near that altitude. Second, SS2 isn't even capable of that. It is a rocket-powered aircraft that can't even "reach space" by the meaningless altitude-only definition, and is thoroughly incapable of actual space travel. Developing it into an actual spacecraft would require starting over from scratch.

    SpaceX has put well over a hundred satellites into Earth orbit, a probe into solar orbit, and even put the CEO's old car into a Mars-crossing solar orbit. They've developed a spacecraft capable of carrying humans and are waiting on NASA for flight tests. They are actually capable of space travel, not just climbing to a particular altitude and falling back. The closest thing Virgin has is Virgin Orbital's LauncherOne, which will only be capable of launching smallsats, not people.

    So, yeah, the company that uses false advertising to give the impression they have something to do with manned spaceflight and that is pushing to redefine definitions due to their underperforming vehicle has fewer fans.

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    Virgin Galactic does its second flight to space with 3 persons.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/22/rich...aceflight.html

    Two months after the inaugural spaceflight, Virgin Galactic’s spacecraft Unity has done it again.

    Virgin Galactic sent three human beings on Unity for the first time in Friday’s supersonic test flight, which reached three times the speed of sound on its way up. Just before the flight, Richard Branson’s space tourism company told CNBC that astronaut trainer Beth Moses is on the company’s spacecraft Unity, along with the two pilots.

    “Beth Moses is on board as a crew member,” a Virgin Galactic spokeswoman told CNBC. “She will be doing validation of some of the cabin design elements.”
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    Virgin Galactic thread

    Suborbital spacecraft Unity moved to New Mexico spaceport.

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    I remember when Branson said he was going to be operating in 2008. Puts Boeing's delays into context.

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    I vaguely recall a contest to win a flight. That was many years ago - I wonder if the ticket is still good.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KaiYeves View Post
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    News feed at the Virgin Galactic site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extravoice View Post
    I vaguely recall a contest to win a flight. That was many years ago - I wonder if the ticket is still good.


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    I'm quite sure the ticket is still valid. Otherwise it would certainly be very, very bad advertising.
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    "Yes, I would like to buy One Giant Leap into space aboard your Virgin Galactic craft, thank you."

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    Virgin Galactic SS2

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    "SpaceShipTwo makes first flight from Spaceport America"

    https://spacenews.com/spaceshiptwo-m...eport-america/

    Virgin Galactic conducted the first test flight of SpaceShipTwo from its New Mexico spaceport May 1 as the company edges closer to finally beginning commercial flights of the suborbital spaceplane.

    The company’s WhiteKnightTwo aircraft, with the VSS Unity SpaceShipTwo attached to it, took off shortly before 11 a.m. Eastern from Spaceport America in southern New Mexico. After reaching a planned altitude of about 15,000 meters, WhiteKnightTwo released SpaceShipTwo, which glided back to the runway at the spaceport.

    While SpaceShipTwo has performed many glide flights, all previously took place from Mojave Air and Space Port in California. SpaceShipTwo arrived with WhiteKnightTwo at Spaceport America in February to begin a final series of glide and powered test flights before starting commercial operations.
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    When SpaceShip One flew all those years ago I honestly thought it was going to be the start of something, a real step forward for commercial spaceflight, and now it seems to be just a cool toy long since overtaken by others with bigger ambitions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extravoice View Post
    As Fry would say...

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    Agreed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by selvaarchi View Post
    "SpaceShipTwo makes first flight from Spaceport America"

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    Owing to the financial situation of his other companies, especially Virgin Atlantic, Branson is looking to sell a stake in Virgin Galactic:

    Coronavirus: Branson to sell Galactic stake to prop up Virgin

    No way of knowing if this is going to impact operational activities.

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    I really hope I'm not right. Even before their in-flight disaster, I have been very skeptical of this being a viable (if high-end) endeavor.

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    Sensor failure leads to Virgin LauncherOne delay until later in March WRONG … MAY

    https://www.space.com/sensor-glitch-...et-launch.html
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    March? It's almost June. Even if they meant May, it's almost June.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjsf View Post
    march? It's almost june. Even if they meant may, it's almost june.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger E. Moore View Post
    Sensor failure leads to Virgin LauncherOne delay until later in March WRONG … MAY

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