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    Quote Originally Posted by cjameshuff View Post
    NIMBYs saying NIMBY. A Falcon Heavy load of RP-1 is a tremendously greater environmental threat than a Starship load of liquid methane, especially in a wetlands area. An accidental release of the latter will immediately evaporate and disperse, a major RP-1 spill would require a massive cleanup project.
    Those are very true, however there were more complaints versus the site, launch facility versus testing facility etc. I did notice that one of the imbedded videos incorrectly tagged the recent explosion as a Raptor engine explosion if memory serves me well so the news media didn't do research very well (color me surprised). I was really posting this to see if anyone close to SpaceX has any corporate comment as it seemed really sour grapes to me reading the whole thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrell View Post
    To clarify, the deformations I was referring to formed during the test. They formed pretty quickly at some point late in the test, I would guess when the tanks were being depressurized but I don't know for certain.
    As far as I know, and I might be mistaken, the dents were there before the test then popped out during pressurization but returned when the pressure was relieved. as far as I've seen in the videos, SN6 doesn't have these dents to start with. Not that it's overly relevant, as both SN5 and SN6 are not yet in the production type of steel.
    With sufficient thrust, water towers fly just fine.

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    The FAA review is to update the EA for a heavier Lau Cher, and to take into account the village being pretty much bought & depopulated.

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    SN-05 static fire road closure dates...

    Primary Date: July 8, 2020
    Time: 0900 – 1800 Eastern

    Backup Date 1: July 9, 2020
    Time: 0900 – 1800 Eastern

    Backup Date 2: July 10, 2020
    Time: 0900 – 1800 Eastern

    BlueZilla rises...(crane for erecting Super Heavy's High Bay 2)

    https://youtu.be/nUpi6j-OVFg

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    Customer: CONAE (Argentina)

    SAOCOM 1B is a radarsat

    Launch date: July 25-30, 2020
    Launch time: 0719 Eastern (2319 UT)
    Pad: ????
    Booster: ????
    Recovery: RTLS
    Orbit: SSO (sun synchronous, polar launch)**

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjameshuff View Post
    NIMBYs saying NIMBY. A Falcon Heavy load of RP-1 is a tremendously greater environmental threat than a Starship load of liquid methane, especially in a wetlands area. An accidental release of the latter will immediately evaporate and disperse, a major RP-1 spill would require a massive cleanup project.
    It's also not just a fuel spill that Environmental Impact Studies consider. It's also the construction and changes in topography and hydrology. It's other chemicals and activities on-site that might contaminate ground water. There are issues with subsidence and noise (not just of the rocket, but other activities, too). It concerns sprawl/footprint and road construction. It includes air pollution from vehicles, construction, traffic and more. It includes economic impacts to the community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CJSF View Post
    It's also not just a fuel spill that Environmental Impact Studies consider. It's also the construction and changes in topography and hydrology. It's other chemicals and activities on-site that might contaminate ground water. There are issues with subsidence and noise (not just of the rocket, but other activities, too). It concerns sprawl/footprint and road construction. It includes air pollution from vehicles, construction, traffic and more. It includes economic impacts to the community.

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    Just to be clear, this is very likely a modification to the existing EIS not a new one. The former is much easier and usually faster than the latter.

    Edit: there is also a conplete Super Heavy/Starship EIS for LC-39A, so much of the acoustic and other data could be imported rather than redone from scratch.
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    The SpaceXers are thinking ahead, building a new Starship test stand in case the new one gets destroyed.

    And, Raptor SN-27 is queued up for installation into Starship SN-05.

    https://youtu.be/8ygqh_4tPdk

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    Raptor installed, and at about 06;30 is an SN-08 dome made of 304L steel; more ductile, easier to weld, and a step before using their 30X alloy.

    https://youtu.be/cqD6ufOCoXk

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    BlueZilla, a Manitowoc 18000 Crawler Crane. It'll build High Bay 2, the 81+ meter vertical assembly building for Super Heavy.

    IMG_20200705_023224.jpg

    https://twitter.com/cnunezimages/sta...65645563277312

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    FAA NOTAMs (notice to airmen) are in place for an SN-05 hop this week, cleared up to 1500ft (457.2m) AGL.

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    That's about as high as SN4's mass simulator went. Hopefully things go according to plan, I've been waiting to see another water tower fly!
    With sufficient thrust, water towers fly just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolas View Post
    That's about as high as SN4's mass simulator went. Hopefully things go according to plan, I've been waiting to see another water tower fly!
    That’s no water tower!

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    Date: July 8

    Backup: July 10

    Time: 1159 (1559 GMT)

    Pad: LC-39A

    Recovery: ASDS Of Course I Still Love You

    Weather: 70%

    https://youtu.be/KU6KogxG5BE
    Last edited by docmordrid; 2020-Jul-07 at 10:43 PM.

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    Mary @BocaChicaGal
    Super Heavy High Bay walls are starting to go up at SpaceX Boca Chica.
    @NASASpaceflight

    https://t.co/9sTD7p0vVz https://t.co/dKaXLFi1Fe

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    https://twitter.com/BocaChicaGal/sta...80100732014592

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    SN-05 test schedule

    Static fire: July 10
    Backups: July 11 & July 12

    150m hop: July 13
    Backups: July 14 & July 15

    Times: all days 0900-1800 Eastern

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    Mary@BocaChicaGal
    Bluezilla is hard at it this morning as more walls for the Super Heavy high bay goes up.
    @NASASpaceflight

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    Jack Beyer @thejackbeyer
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    Replying to @BocaChicaGal and @NASASpaceflight
    The speed at which they’re putting the new High Bay up is insane! Wow.
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    Rick Strickland @rdstrick777
    I think those panels are around 20m high. If so, they will be stacked 4 high. Wow

    https://twitter.com/BocaChicaGal/sta...61327955804161

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    I really needed a trigger warning for some of that video. My reaction to heights is somewhat different than it used to be.

    Meanwhile, can someone find me a recent aerial picture of the area? Google Earth has from 2017, which is several millennia ago in SpaceX time.
    Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
    I really needed a trigger warning for some of that video. My reaction to heights is somewhat different than it used to be.

    Meanwhile, can someone find me a recent aerial picture of the area? Google Earth has from 2017, which is several millennia ago in SpaceX time.
    1594270736516.jpg

    BC Pad 2 labeled.jpg

    Build site flyover
    https://youtu.be/h7cxWmezr0w

    Launch site flyover
    https://youtu.be/o1umDL1SUDo
    Last edited by docmordrid; 2020-Jul-09 at 06:20 AM.

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    StarLink 9: Mother Nature is still twitchy

    Emre Kelly @EmreKelly (Florida Today)
    Scratch the earlier launch hazard area. SpaceX now approved for Saturday, July 11, between 1045 and 1100 ET.

    https://twitter.com/emrekelly/status...82337191378947

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    Quote Originally Posted by docmordrid View Post
    Thanks so much! I figured someone would have better Google-Fu than me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
    Thanks so much! I figured someone would have better Google-Fu than me!
    You're welcome!

    RGV Aerial Photography and LabPadre do a lot of Boca Chica imaging, with LabPadre also hosting 24/7 webcams of the build and launch sites and streaming live events like tests, static fires and hops. On Twitter @BocaChicaGal (who has a NASASpaceFlight.com press pass) gets some excellent shots & video on a daily basis.

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    Now confirmed,

    Falcon 9 StarLink v1.0 Launch 9

    Launch date: July 11
    Launch time: 1045-1100 Eastern (1445-1500 UT)

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    Videos,

    How to build a Starship
    https://youtu.be/Y_bNUhFWiVM

    Starship landing legs (current, future = longer)
    https://youtu.be/NKFN6TkTj0w

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    I thought the present legs were too short if it is ever to land on an uneven surface and especially if there is any give as the rocket settles.

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    StarLjnk v1.0 Launch 9

    https://youtu.be/KU6KogxG5BE

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    Quote Originally Posted by docmordrid View Post
    StarLjnk v1.0 Launch 9

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    Not today.

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    Scrubbed, and the fleet seems to be relocating to the Anasis II landing zone.

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    Starship weekly update

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    Quote Originally Posted by bknight View Post
    Not today.
    They seem to be having some real issues getting this mission launched.
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