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I'd guess the latter. Yesterday they took the mass simulator off S/N six and may be going to put the white-painted nose section on top of it.Originally Posted by Nicolas
That S/N 9 test fire seemed mighty short. I'd guess some sort of unintended shutdown occurred.
Meanwhile, S/N x is awkward to type. I'm just going to type the names I've been mentally giving them. S/N 8 becomes Snate. Then Snine. Then Sten. Then Sleven, and so on!
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Blue Origin delivered a lander mockup a few months ago...at least, a pile of cardboard, foil, and balloons in the rough shape of a lander. I assume this is just the same thing. Not sure SpaceX's will fit in the Space Vehicle Mockup Facility though...
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And you can't get more "boiler plate" than the Starship construction.
With sufficient thrust, water towers fly just fine.
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Just launched and stage 1 recovered.
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It's both a SpaceX development and a paid procurement under NASA's
Human Lander System program. HLS is part of the Commercial Lunar Services Program (CLPS), which also includes several commercially built landers & rovers.
The Starship HLS waist landing thrusters would be useful for landings on other bodies without an atmosphere thick enough to make fins useful for skydiver deceleration; the Martian moons, Ceres, the outer Jovian moons, etc. Fins would be useful for Earth, Mars, and Titan.
Starship HLS also sports 2 airlocks.
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Skipping prototypes,
Chris B - NSF @NASASpaceflight
Jan 8, 2021
This is a very interesting forward plan for Starship via Mary (@BocaChicaGal).
SN9 - on Pad B.
SN10 - in the High Bay.
SN11 - in the Mid Bay.
Now joined by...
SN15 - in the Mid Bay (previously thought to be SN12).
So, SN11, then SN15 (no 12, 13, 14).
https://youtube.com/watch?v=WhiRrkQUzms
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Nice!!! Skipping ahead to a more refined vehicle probably! Makes sense, why fly outdated hardware? At this point launching is the bottleneck, clearly developing and building these things is not.
https://twitter.com/Erdayastronaut/s...83355366227974
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Another test tank somewhere, (30X alloy?)
A Super Heavy in the High Bay,
And a partridge in a pear tree.... 🤪
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So my previous guess about 13 and 14 might not be far off the mark then. Makes sense to move them aside if they expect to meet all their objectives with 9 or 10.
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Static fire test of SN9 appears to be aborted.
With sufficient thrust, water towers fly just fine.
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It seems to support my guess that SN8 got them what they anticipated possibly needing several flights to get. They could easily have had, say, a three-engine burn issue on SN8's way up, a flap control issue on SN9's descent, and a problem with engine relight or the flip maneuver on SN10, leaving them still trying to accomplish everything SN8 did with SN11.
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A short fire due to abort. They tried to repeat it yesterday but there was a range violation late in the window (rumor: people on the beach). They'll try again before flying.
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I was talking about the new attempt from yesterday. I'm that on top of the news.
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With sufficient thrust, water towers fly just fine.
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Transporter-1
The Transporter launches are SpaceX's new Rideshare bulk launch service. There could be several this year.
https://www.spacex.com/rideshare/
Date: January 14, 2021 (possible slip to January 21)Launches about every 4 months
COST AS LOW AS $1M
$1M for 200kg to SSO with additional mass at $5k/kg. Affordable rates also available to Mid-Inclination LEO, GTO, and TLI.
Window: 0919 Eastern (1419 UT)
Pad: LC-40
Booster: B1051.8
Recovery: ASDS
Mass: ~5,000 kg
Orbit: 500 km Sun-Synchronous Orbit (SSO)
Payloads;
StarLink: 10 (Why not? For polar coverage)
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SN-09 launch update
Michael Baylor @nextspaceflight
SpaceX is now targeting no earlier than Tuesday for Starship SN9's test flight, per updated Temporary Flight Restrictions. Backup opportunities are available on Wednesday and Thursday.
https://tfr.faa.gov/tfr2/list.html
https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/...11006513999872
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SN-09 static fire
Date: Monday, January1011
Window: 0900 - 1800 Eastern
https://twitter.com/bocachicagal/sta...91633784631296
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Correction - Monday is the 11th.
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Arrggghhh...
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Cargo Dragon 2 CRS-21
Splashdown: 2100 Eastern off the coast of Florida
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CRS-21 departure scrubbed - weather in the landing zone.
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No static fire today; traffic hazard on Highway 4
https://twitter.com/LabPadre/status/1348674668480389120
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Concrete can't explode.
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I seem to recall a Mythbusters episode....Concrete can't explode.
ETA: In addition to the cement truck, there is also a vessel aground on Boca Chica beach!
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And high winds. The Rocket Gods were angry today o_O
https://youtu.be/Hv85WrH-2oo
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@BocaChicaGal (Mary) got a notice there's a static fire attempt on for today (below), and there are FAA flight restrictions (main & 2 backup dates) for Wednesday --> Friday.
Note: the times in Mary's post are US Central, so the window is 0900 - 1800 Eastern.
https://twitter.com/bocachicagal/sta...96727067742209
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Window extended, working to a static fire
https://youtu.be/b4d__mxW7Ao
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Venting, siren has gone off so about 10 min
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Looks like an abort - big venting. We'll see since this is the first try using helium to pressurize the headers.
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Tomorrow; same Bat Time, same Bat Channel...
https://twitter.com/BocachicaMaria1/...89610652446724
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Looks like SpaceX had a booboo - when stacking some DOD/Darpa test satellites (they are small satellites meant to test technologies for future missions) for a rideshare, two were damaged:
https://spacenews.com/darpa-satellit...spacex-launch/
These presumably wouldn’t be hugely expensive satellites and they aren’t saying how damaged they are, but it must be embarrassing.
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On the bright side, the payload release system was succesfully though unwillingly tested...
With sufficient thrust, water towers fly just fine.
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It's not clear if the problem was handling or an issue with the payload adapter, of which there are a couple types on the Transporter-1 mission. Remember ZUMA?
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