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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolas View Post
    Can someone give (a link to) some context about the Starship lunar mockup? Is it a SpaceX initiative, or part of the deliverables for a NASA contract? Is it for development purposes, or as a sales pitch prop that has more impact than a 3D render?
    I'd guess the latter. Yesterday they took the mass simulator off S/N six and may be going to put the white-painted nose section on top of it.

    That S/N 9 test fire seemed mighty short. I'd guess some sort of unintended shutdown occurred.

    Meanwhile, S/N x is awkward to type. I'm just going to type the names I've been mentally giving them. S/N 8 becomes Snate. Then Snine. Then Sten. Then Sleven, and so on!
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    Blue Origin delivered a lander mockup a few months ago...at least, a pile of cardboard, foil, and balloons in the rough shape of a lander. I assume this is just the same thing. Not sure SpaceX's will fit in the Space Vehicle Mockup Facility though...

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    And you can't get more "boiler plate" than the Starship construction.
    With sufficient thrust, water towers fly just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docmordrid View Post
    Turksat 5A was rescheduled because of the Turkey-Armenian kerfuffle. The satellite also supports Turkey's military, so protests ensued.

    Date: January 7
    Time: 2028 pm Eastern (0128 UT)
    Just launched and stage 1 recovered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolas View Post
    Can someone give (a link to) some context about the Starship lunar mockup? Is it a SpaceX initiative, or part of the deliverables for a NASA contract? Is it for development purposes, or as a sales pitch prop that has more impact than a 3D render?
    It's both a SpaceX development and a paid procurement under NASA's
    Human Lander System program. HLS is part of the Commercial Lunar Services Program (CLPS), which also includes several commercially built landers & rovers.

    The Starship HLS waist landing thrusters would be useful for landings on other bodies without an atmosphere thick enough to make fins useful for skydiver deceleration; the Martian moons, Ceres, the outer Jovian moons, etc. Fins would be useful for Earth, Mars, and Titan.

    Starship HLS also sports 2 airlocks.
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    Skipping prototypes,

    Chris B - NSF @NASASpaceflight
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    This is a very interesting forward plan for Starship via Mary (@BocaChicaGal).

    SN9 - on Pad B.
    SN10 - in the High Bay.
    SN11 - in the Mid Bay.
    Now joined by...
    SN15 - in the Mid Bay (previously thought to be SN12).

    So, SN11, then SN15 (no 12, 13, 14).

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=WhiRrkQUzms
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    Everyday Astronaut @Erdayastronaut
    Nice!!! Skipping ahead to a more refined vehicle probably! Makes sense, why fly outdated hardware? At this point launching is the bottleneck, clearly developing and building these things is not.
    https://twitter.com/Erdayastronaut/s...83355366227974

    Also

    Another test tank somewhere, (30X alloy?)

    A Super Heavy in the High Bay,

    And a partridge in a pear tree.... 🤪

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    Quote Originally Posted by docmordrid View Post
    Skipping prototypes,

    Chris B - NSF @NASASpaceflight
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    This is a very interesting forward plan for Starship via Mary (@BocaChicaGal).

    SN9 - on Pad B.
    SN10 - in the High Bay.
    SN11 - in the Mid Bay.
    Now joined by...
    SN15 - in the Mid Bay (previously thought to be SN12).

    So, SN11, then SN15 (no 12, 13, 14).

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=WhiRrkQUzms
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    Everyday Astronaut @Erdayastronaut
    Nice!!! Skipping ahead to a more refined vehicle probably! Makes sense, why fly outdated hardware? At this point launching is the bottleneck, clearly developing and building these things is not.
    https://twitter.com/Erdayastronaut/s...83355366227974

    Also

    Another test tank somewhere, (30X alloy?)

    A Super Heavy in the High Bay,

    And a partridge in a pear tree.... ��
    So my previous guess about 13 and 14 might not be far off the mark then. Makes sense to move them aside if they expect to meet all their objectives with 9 or 10.

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    Static fire test of SN9 appears to be aborted.
    With sufficient thrust, water towers fly just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garrison View Post
    So my previous guess about 13 and 14 might not be far off the mark then. Makes sense to move them aside if they expect to meet all their objectives with 9 or 10.
    It seems to support my guess that SN8 got them what they anticipated possibly needing several flights to get. They could easily have had, say, a three-engine burn issue on SN8's way up, a flap control issue on SN9's descent, and a problem with engine relight or the flip maneuver on SN10, leaving them still trying to accomplish everything SN8 did with SN11.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolas View Post
    Static fire test of SN9 appears to be aborted.
    A short fire due to abort. They tried to repeat it yesterday but there was a range violation late in the window (rumor: people on the beach). They'll try again before flying.

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    I was talking about the new attempt from yesterday. I'm that on top of the news.
    Last edited by Nicolas; 2021-Jan-09 at 10:44 AM.
    With sufficient thrust, water towers fly just fine.

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    Transporter-1

    The Transporter launches are SpaceX's new Rideshare bulk launch service. There could be several this year.

    https://www.spacex.com/rideshare/

    Launches about every 4 months

    COST AS LOW AS $1M

    $1M for 200kg to SSO with additional mass at $5k/kg. Affordable rates also available to Mid-Inclination LEO, GTO, and TLI.
    Date: January 14, 2021 (possible slip to January 21)
    Window: 0919 Eastern (1419 UT)
    Pad: LC-40
    Booster: B1051.8
    Recovery: ASDS
    Mass: ~5,000 kg
    Orbit: 500 km Sun-Synchronous Orbit (SSO)

    Payloads;

    StarLink: 10 (Why not? For polar coverage)

    Also: Spaceflight (SHERPA tug), HawkEye, NASA, iQPS, Umbra Labs, Celestis, Astrocast, Tyvax Nano-Satellite Systems, US DoD, USAF, KelplarianTech, NanoRacks, NearSpace, Space Domain Awareness, PlanetiQ, Capella, Kepler, Astro Digital, D-Orbit, Israel defense, spaceQ, UVSQ, R2, LINCOLNSHIRE, inOrbit, NanoAvionics, Exolaunch, Swarm Technologies
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    SN-09 launch update

    Michael Baylor @nextspaceflight
    SpaceX is now targeting no earlier than Tuesday for Starship SN9's test flight, per updated Temporary Flight Restrictions. Backup opportunities are available on Wednesday and Thursday.
    https://tfr.faa.gov/tfr2/list.html

    https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/...11006513999872

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    SN-09 static fire

    Date: Monday, January 10 11
    Window: 0900 - 1800 Eastern

    https://twitter.com/bocachicagal/sta...91633784631296
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    Correction - Monday is the 11th.

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    Arrggghhh...

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    Cargo Dragon 2 CRS-21

    Splashdown: 2100 Eastern off the coast of Florida

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    CRS-21 departure scrubbed - weather in the landing zone.

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    SN-09

    No static fire today; traffic hazard on Highway 4

    https://twitter.com/LabPadre/status/1348674668480389120

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    Quote Originally Posted by docmordrid View Post
    SN-09

    No static fire today; traffic hazard on Highway 4

    https://twitter.com/LabPadre/status/1348674668480389120
    Concrete can't explode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swift View Post
    Concrete can't explode.
    I seem to recall a Mythbusters episode....

    ETA: In addition to the cement truck, there is also a vessel aground on Boca Chica beach!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
    I seem to recall a Mythbusters episode....

    ETA: In addition to the cement truck, there is also a vessel aground on Boca Chica beach!
    And high winds. The Rocket Gods were angry today o_O

    https://youtu.be/Hv85WrH-2oo

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    SN-09

    @BocaChicaGal (Mary) got a notice there's a static fire attempt on for today (below), and there are FAA flight restrictions (main & 2 backup dates) for Wednesday --> Friday.

    Note: the times in Mary's post are US Central, so the window is 0900 - 1800 Eastern.

    https://twitter.com/bocachicagal/sta...96727067742209

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    Window extended, working to a static fire

    https://youtu.be/b4d__mxW7Ao

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    SN-09

    Venting, siren has gone off so about 10 min

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    Looks like an abort - big venting. We'll see since this is the first try using helium to pressurize the headers.

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    Tomorrow; same Bat Time, same Bat Channel...

    https://twitter.com/BocachicaMaria1/...89610652446724

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    Looks like SpaceX had a booboo - when stacking some DOD/Darpa test satellites (they are small satellites meant to test technologies for future missions) for a rideshare, two were damaged:

    https://spacenews.com/darpa-satellit...spacex-launch/

    These presumably wouldn’t be hugely expensive satellites and they aren’t saying how damaged they are, but it must be embarrassing.

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    On the bright side, the payload release system was succesfully though unwillingly tested...
    With sufficient thrust, water towers fly just fine.

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    It's not clear if the problem was handling or an issue with the payload adapter, of which there are a couple types on the Transporter-1 mission. Remember ZUMA?

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