Remarkable foresight to name the country the Kingdom of Great Britain all the way back in 1707, when the age of imperialism didn't really start until around 1760.Originally Posted by grant hutchison
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Remarkable foresight to name the country the Kingdom of Great Britain all the way back in 1707, when the age of imperialism didn't really start until around 1760.
A: "Things that are equal to the same are equal to each other"
B: "The two sides of this triangle are things that are equal to the same"
C: "If A and B are true, Z must be true"
D: "If A and B and C are true, Z must be true"
E: "If A and B and C and D are true, Z must be true"
Therefore, Z: "The two sides of this triangle are equal to each other"
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Well England joined Scotland 1603 under James 6 of Scotland and later added Ireland, uniting the British Isles under one king. The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland came much later after Irish independence. The Elizabethan age started the process with a navy thanks to wars with the French of course, and the reform of the church allowed merchants to trade and so on.
That same king , James first of England coined the use of “Britain” no doubt from his knowledge of history.
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Whether you include Ireland in the personal union with England (and Wales) before or after Scotland depends on how you count it.
The King of Scotland became the King of England in 1603, uniting them in a personal union - they were still administratively different countries. But Henry VIII became King of Ireland in 1542, it's just that he didn't have control of all of Ireland at the time. So we could take the personal union of England (and Wales) with Ireland to be in 1542, or at some later time in the 1600s. James VI of Scotland became James I of England on 24 March 1603, and the last rebellious Irish province wasn't brought under control until 25 April 1603. So we could place the personal union between England (and Wales) with Ireland from 1542, or 32 days after the personal union of England (and Wales) with Scotland
But it was a personal union, like the one between Spain and Portugal for 60 years, the one between England and France for more than 20 years, as well as many other European personal unions - and also one involving Brazil (which lasted for a few days), Congo (which lasted for years), and part of China and part of Korea. So England/Wales, Scotland, and Ireland all had the same monarch, but they remained different countries, much like the United Kingdom, Canada, Australia, and a number of other countries have the same monarch.
The formal consolidation of England/Wales with Scotland (so that they had not just the same monarch, but the same government) was 1707, with the result called the Kingdom of Great Britain. The political (not just personal) union with Ireland came in 1801, and was called the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland; this was modified to become the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland when the rest of Ireland became the Irish Free State in 1922.
Since Scotland did not become independent a few years ago, we have not (at least not yet) had the United Kingdom of England, Wales, and Northern Ireland.
A: "Things that are equal to the same are equal to each other"
B: "The two sides of this triangle are things that are equal to the same"
C: "If A and B are true, Z must be true"
D: "If A and B and C are true, Z must be true"
E: "If A and B and C and D are true, Z must be true"
Therefore, Z: "The two sides of this triangle are equal to each other"
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It would have been, wouldn't it?
But those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat dumb stuff on the Internet.
When I was a kid, we were taught that the island was called Britain and the country was called Great Britain, but that seems rather to have fallen by the wayside, and never seems to have been much of a thing in the first place.
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Same here. Sorry, Grant, for confusing you.
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That’s been playing on one of the cable television channels here quite a bit recently.
A: "Things that are equal to the same are equal to each other"
B: "The two sides of this triangle are things that are equal to the same"
C: "If A and B are true, Z must be true"
D: "If A and B and C are true, Z must be true"
E: "If A and B and C and D are true, Z must be true"
Therefore, Z: "The two sides of this triangle are equal to each other"
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All that is required to call something "great", is a smaller version. I wish I had a little brother.
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Well, thanks for the apology, but there wasn't really any confusion. I'd been misguided enough to ask for some clarification on the "amuses you" thread (again), and people immediately set about amusing themselves (again). It wasn't exactly an inexplicable turn of events.
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Random association to this 7 second Youtube video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUKmq7UMJys
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They shouldn't have needed to project the lyrics!
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I just saw an ad for adblock. Not sure if good commercial idea or bad commercial idea.
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"If you were using this, you wouldn't be seeing this."I just saw an ad for adblock. Not sure if good commercial idea or bad commercial idea.
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This one didn't really "amuse" me, but it certainly intrigues me. I have a mouse trap on the attic. Standard model (with a blunt bar, not a blade). Normally you find the mouse inside the trap with a broken neck or crushed skull. This time, the mouse was about 40cm away from the trap. How does that happen? Did it manage to wring itself out of the trap and die shortly after? Did it get flung that far?
Anyway, I've put up the trap again. Because I have a feeling that mice are a bit like spiders: you may never see one, but you can be quite sure you have them. And if this was the last mouse I caught this season, all the better.
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