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    The KamLAND Collaboration, affiliatied with the Research Center for Neutrino Science, Tohoku University from the second link

    Now I remember why I spent less and less time here

    luck with that mob- you will need it
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    `About Berkeley Lab: Bringing Science Solutions to the World
    In the world of science, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) is synonymous with “excellence.” Eleven scientists associated with Berkeley Lab have won the Nobel Prize. Fifty-seven Lab scientists are members of the National Academy of Sciences (NAS), one of the highest honors for a scientist in the United States. Thirteen of our scientists have won the National Medal of Science, our nation's highest award for lifetime achievement in fields of scientific research. Eighteen of our engineers have been elected to the National Academy of Engineering, and three of our scientists have been elected into the Institute of Medicine. In addition, Berkeley Lab has trained thousands of university science and engineering students who are advancing technological innovations across the nation and around the world. ' being the authors of your first link
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    You were asked a question by a moderator, tusenfem, as to what you want to discuss, since your posts seem borderline for being non-mainstream.

    I am sure that Berkeley Labs would be rather upset to be considered `nonmainstream' LOL
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